Building A Life As An Artist For Peace with Lauren O'Brien

In this episode of the Creating Victory Podcast, host Amy J. dives deep into the uniting power of art with internationally acclaimed-award-winning actor, writer, musician and educator Lauren O’Brien.

From acting auditions to creating her own band and toruing Germany,  Lauren shares her many experiences uniting people’s hearts and minds with music and theater. Her critically acclaimed one woman show: ‘Lolo’s Boyfriend Show’- won the Fringe Festival NYC, ran off Broadway, and was invited to the Edinborough Fringe where Lolo won audience favorite, and was short listed for best international production.  Lauren shares insights into staying focused, managing rejection and how to keep moving no matter what obstacles are in the way.  She is a force to be reckoned with and exemplifies what it truly means to be an Artist for Peace.

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Transcript

Meet Lauren O'Brien

SPEAKER_00 0:00

This week on the Creating Victory podcast, host Amy Jay sits down with Lauren O'Brien, a true artist for peace. Lauren is a multi-award-winning, internationally acclaimed actor, musician, band leader, playwright, author, and creator of the off-Broadway show, Lolo's Boyfriend Show. Amy Jay and Lauren dive deep into surviving and thriving as an artist, overcoming the obstacles in the power of music and theater to open people's hearts and build relationships of respect and love. Lauren shares tips to stay motivated and focused in the slump and how she single-handedly created and produced her own work and literally toured the world.

SPEAKER_02 0:37

Hello, my friends out there, Amy J here, and we are back for this week's episode of Creating Victory Podcast. Thank you for listening, sharing, downloading, inspiring the world to create victory in any moment. And I am so excited, I'm always excited to have my dear friend, an amazing artist for peace and gloriously talented human Lauren O'Brien. She is an actor, a writer, a musician, a producer, a mogul. And she is truly the exemplifying, making it happen, creating value in the world. Lauren, I love you forever. She's my rock star. Thank you for being here.

SPEAKER_03 1:30

I love you. Thank you so much for having me, Amy, my newbie star. And thank you for that introduction.

From Acting To Writing Songs

SPEAKER_02 1:37

I'm just like, ooh, she's a mogul. So share with our people a little bit. I know you were initially an actor. I mean, you're still an actor. This is one of the things I love about you, is you're able to morph it all. Just share a little bit about your artistic journey and your goal as an artist for peace. That's a long question, but I like it.

SPEAKER_03 2:03

I've had a really winding journey. And the more I talk to other artists, I think that is not uncommon for artists. But I always wanted to be an actress. I studied acting at Syracuse University. Yay, Syracuse. Um, and I did some work at Syracuse Stage as an actress. I did it tours as an actress. And then I got involved. I was a founding member of Polina Kumoviskaya's avant-garde theater company. And that woman, she's from the Moscow Art Theater, she's a really divine artist. She taught me so much about creativity. She has this really unique kinetic psychophysical approach to creating and performing. And I have used that work and everything I've done going forward. So I learned so much from Paulina. And I was auditioning a lot. I, you know, did more regional theater and tours. I did a little bit of work in film and I was trying to break through more, but I really hated auditioning. I felt so much like a piece of meat. You know, everyone's looking at your body as an actor. I felt so self-conscious and flirted with eating disorders. Because it's just it's so much about what you're doing.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

The horrible environment. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 3:22

And at the time, I was becoming friends with a lot of musicians and you know, people with bands and DJs, and I admired them so much because they got to, I felt like it was so empowering. They could write their own songs, book their own shows, connect with their own fans, put together their own tours. It was so empowering to me. And, you know, it didn't occur to me yet that, oh, I could write a play. I have this background. I made friends with a producer. And at the time I was also doing poetry open mic, so he had me start writing lyrics for bands he was working on. Then I recorded some demos with them and I was in a band with him. And I just thought it was the cool, I was floating on air because I went from having very little musical experience to being in a band and writing all the lyrics. And with some really, you know, I one of the people on the band, Fred Shahani, had won an Emmy Award for TV shows, and Janice Robinson had hit songs on the radio, which she twerked with David Turter, and Mark Gohan's extremely so from nothing, I was with these people and I fell in love. And Fred Shahadi let me borrow his partner named Flying Lojo guitar just to cry to Barbara on it. It was so cool.

SPEAKER_02 4:39

And um so you taught yourself guitar?

SPEAKER_03 4:42

I took guitar lessons. Um, you know, I taught myself some, and then I had also great teachers. Matt Fisher is one of my teachers. Gary Picard taught me, Fred taught me. So I had a bunch of people helping me. And I remember I had wanted to learn guitar as a kid, and I think at like 12 years old, I really wanted a guitar. One of my family members said, Oh, it's too late at 12. You know, to really become a musician. Did you have to start like that when you're five?

SPEAKER_02 5:10

So programming we get.

SPEAKER_03 5:13

And and later we found it's so good for us, for our brains, for our longevity, for our vitality to learn new things at any age. So I learned in my 20s. I also I practiced Buddhism, and that's how Amy and I became friends. Like she had to be like, and the whole guitar journey started because I went to a Buddhist conference, and a woman shared her experience of later in life. I think she was in her early late 40s, early 50s. She had kids who were now grown and out of the house, and she had a great marriage, but she was falling into this depression, and she chanted to fulfill her greatest mission and her greatest dreams, and she discovered the talent she had as a visual artist. So I was like, you know what? I really want to learn guitar. And so I did, you know, singer-songwriter style. I realistic about my skill level, but I learned well enough to write songs and co-write and play and play and perform. And so the first band fell apart. And then because I was writing poetry, I put together a band that was kind of like Patty Smith meets the snap.

SPEAKER_02 6:29

Yes, it was amazing.

Touring Germany And Finding Connection

SPEAKER_03 6:31

So much fun to do that, and then it was hard working with six people in a band, so then I had in duo with Matt Fisher and also with Mitch De Stefano. I wrote him toward I co-wrote a Pope Cabaret show toward that along with the show. That showed Germany, and it was like that was so empowering to me.

SPEAKER_02 6:51

Here, talk about Germany because I remember that when it fell in your lap and you were working a regular full-time job. I want our audience to understand that we as artists are juggling a hundred things. So you're doing all this and you're working a full-time job in a law firm, then you get invited to go. I remember that. Like that was a whole Germany trip, and what did that experience bring for you?

SPEAKER_03 7:22

It was one of the best experiences of my life. Because it's true, I was working full-time and then also performing. I had these really long days where I'd get up super early, do Buddhist chanting, I'd practice in the morning and rehearse in the morning, work the full-time job, go to the gym, take a shower, rehearse, sometimes see a show. Eventually I'd crash, but it was also like so exciting and vibrant. And I also loved the people that I worked with at the day job. Like I met amazing people doing that. So I had to fight to get a month off of work to go this tour in Germany. And Lisa Bianco, the incredible guitar player, came with me. And Songs and Whispers produced this tour. And they have a great Songs and Whispers is this production and touring company that searches for up-and-coming artists. And they have these contests for up-and-coming artists, and they have a tour route that they'll bring the artists on. And there's some big cities. We played in Berlin, we played in Hamburg, and we also did a lot of small towns, more rural towns. I'll never forget Greitz, which is this rural town, and a lot of industry is there. And we played in an old warehouse and stayed in this old warehouse where people there were absolutely magnificent. It was this huge, and because it was a pop cabaret show, they turned the whole old warehouse into a cabaret. Oh my god. Everyone came out from like all the surrounding towns. We stayed there. I think it was like birthday. They made a birthday cake. They set up a room for us in this factory, put chocolates on our pillows. I was wearing like dress made out of chains, and one of the chains broke, and someone there had a welding shop in this factory, and he was like, oh, don't worry, I'll fix it. I wish we had gotten video of me in this chain, dress made of chains, getting it fixed by a welder in Kuba.

SPEAKER_01 9:28

This town in Germany. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 9:30

Insane. So we played some bigger theaters and then we played small towns. We played at, we actually performed at a church, and the pastor hosted us. Wow. We had this wild, crazy show, and he let us flip the church, and we had these freak covers. The pastor there loves whiskey. And he loves music and he loves God. And he had so we did a whiskey tasting at his house. He had huge shelves of vinyl and CDs. So we had these incredible conversations with him about whiskey, which I knew nothing about, but he told us all the history of whiskey, the bottle, it was fascinating. And then all these musicians he had met and hosted. And then we talked about God. And we were these wild girls who weren't necessarily ascribing to what he was preaching. But we had these incredible conversations. He was so open, so warm, so lovely. And we we had so many experiences like that. And just falling in love with so many people that we met.

SPEAKER_02 10:35

I mean, this really we see so much, and I'm always encouraging people to go out without their phones, but this is the power of music and the power of art. And we go to these other places and it truly unites us. It can be the, you know, I always wonder if we stopped putting trillions of dollars into war and started putting trillions of dollars into more. This is exactly how we make peace. You're on complete opposite spectrums, you know, spiritually, lifestyle-wise, and yet you're able to find harmony through the art. So this is you're such an artist for peace.

SPEAKER_03 11:19

That's goal. Thank you for reminding me about the goal. When I connect with that, I feel so much energy. When I get too much into my ego or what's not happening, I get really depressed.

Staying Grounded As An Artistpreneur

SPEAKER_02 11:32

Yeah, it can get really well. That opens up a whole other subject that we have to be artist preneurs now. We have to be social media marketers. We were just talking about this before we came live, you know, producers, agents, bookers. It's you're literally doing 10 jobs and self-funded, and where does the money come from? And how do we keep going and not comparing and despairing? And what keeps you grounded and managing all of that in this bizarre day and age that we're in?

SPEAKER_03 12:10

Great question.

SPEAKER_02 12:11

I think I know the answer, but I'm curious what you say.

SPEAKER_03 12:18

I've been practicing for a really long time with nature and SGI Buddhism, yeah. Yeah, non-mio or ringkyo, which I had originally heard about when I watched the Tina Turner movie, but love got to do with it. And it is so powerful. A stranger told me about it when I first moved to Queens, and she said, try an experiment where you chant Nomi O Ringe kyo, which means devotion to the mystic law of cause and effect. And she's encouraged me to try chanting a few minutes in the morning, a few minutes at night towards a goal. I wanted an acting job. Two weeks later, I had a national tour. So I knew there was something to it. It wasn't always it's not always that, yeah. Because we we also talk about going through the ultimate goal is world peace, and as we chant towards these goals, we get to see our inner negativity, what's between us and that, and also what's between us and our higher selves, our Buddha nature, and we use the word human, the phrase human revolution very often, like transforming internally to decrease the negative internally and increase the positive. And the whole idea is the microcosm affects the macrocosm, and as I'm able to do that, decrease the negative, increase the positive, it ripples out and affects the whole. So much, you know, I've been chanting towards these artistic projects, but I've been doing my human revolution through it.

Grief, Compassion, And Choosing Life

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yes, you have. It's been amazing to watch you from the outside. You inspire me, and you know, you've also come through a lot of serious health challenges and the whole pandemic, and that brought you to Lolo. Tell us about Lolo. Lolo is gonna change the world, she's gonna be president, Lolo in Edborough, Lolo's gonna be in school. I'm like mesmerized by Lolo.

SPEAKER_03 14:24

Yay! I needed to thank you for the encouragement because it is a challenging jerk.

SPEAKER_02 14:29

Getting Lolo out there, of course it is, because she's gonna, you know, impact people's hearts. Yeah, she she's everything. She we talk in Buddhism about the 10 worlds of from hell to Buddhahood and everything in between, and none of it, it's all mutually inclusive. And Lolo's funny and she's vulnerable and she's badass, and she's bitchy, and she's sweet, and she's fashion, and she's music, and she's fearful, and she, you know, has sex with boys, and she breaks up with them, and she, you know, goes out, and I mean Lolo is is everything, and she's this gorgeous amalgamation of of life itself, and what we can be and all in one. I just yeah, it's it's really quite something.

SPEAKER_03 15:24

That means so much coming from you, A, who you created so much, accomplished so much, and in our practice, we practice the Lotus Sutro, which is all about the lotus flower coming out of the muddy swamp. And the show I'm developing now and taking on tour is Lolo's boyfriend show, which I I wrote during the pandemic, but it's the predecessor was Jackson Lolo. That was the first time Lolo made an appearance. And that show we had a a mutual friend, Jackie Sheeler, who was one of my best friends in the world, who unfortunately horrifically took her own life after really struggling with depression. And she had overcome so many obstacles to create a victorious life. She, you know, overcame living in a piece of household and homelessness to being the head of IT Supporting Yahoo!

SPEAKER_01 16:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:24

Yeah. So you know, all of us struggled so much after we lost Jackie, and I was devastated and went through this real Dark Knight of the Soul. You found her. I did. I did. Yeah. And and just this, I mean how it affected all of us, and then what state she must have been in to do something like that, like and everything that contributed to it. So I really I went on this uh Dark Knight of the Soul journey and also chanted so much with you and our other Hudist friends, like almost every day we were chanting in the time after she passed. And I really chanted turn poison into medicine, and I felt and still feel this connection with her heart and her spirit because she was a mentor to me, and she was she was older than me, and she was this artistic mentor, sister, mother, boyfriend sometimes fixed up in my apartment. She protected me, she was just a badass.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

She was badass, uh, you know, Mess Jackie, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 17:29

New York, everyone's scared of like thick Brooklyn accent, tattoos, yeah, artist, but so like people said they were scared of her, but she had such a soft heart. Like I'd go to her house, we'd paint, we'd make cult models. So I really, as I chanted, I felt her spirit, you know, I felt her spirit connecting with me, and I started writing about her, not really sure what I was gonna do with it. And I ended up creating a solo show where I played her and I played myself in all the parts.

SPEAKER_02 18:03

It was amazing.

Creating Lolo From Real Dating Chaos

SPEAKER_03 18:04

Thank you. And I really wanted to create something to create value out of her death and to help her. She always wanted to write a show out of her life, and she never did. So I wanted to help her finish her mission, even though she wasn't here anymore. And I wanted to create a show that would encourage other people to live and not make that choice, even though I think probably every human being thinks about that choice at some point. It's really hard to be a human, to be in this world, to keep going. But in those dark moments to choose life, I wanted that show to help people choose life and also to take the harsh judgment that we have of people who do choose to take their lives. Like I wanted to cultivate compassion because you know, we never know what someone's gone through. And I was so happy after I did that show. Someone came up to me and said that they never want to be the reason that someone else calls 911. Wow. So that meant so much to me. And other people said that I managed to create a joyful show that addresses suicide. So I was so happy about that. And the show was extended, we got some funding, and then the pandemic shut it down. And I always wanted to write a show about my colorful dating life. You know, Lil' Lil's become her own person, but it started with some personal stories, stories of my friends, things I dreamed and imagined. And I kind of took certain aspects of my personality and things I've seen in the data word and just magnified them to create this character that I kind of love, like a daughter. But she I took the craziest parts of myself and just blew them up. Um so I'm saying other people might have a different opinion about how much it's fictionalized, but she just really places for value outside of herself, and it it leads to chaos and hijinks and horror, and it's this journey of her finding herself, yeah. Which is fun and hilarious and terrifying and scary and heartbreaking. And I hope that we created her just as human as possible, so that people and that people can heal through her bad life choices.

SPEAKER_02 20:27

She is, and you're, I mean, the capacity you have as an actor. I mean, you wrote the whole thing, you produced the whole thing. I know you had help, but and then to carry that for two hours and the way it moves, and you stay with her and the costumes and the different men and what that brought out, and the set choices, and the channing, and the I still remember you know her curling up in the chair because we've I I did that recently because something wasn't working out, and I was just so trying to fit a square peg in a round hole, and it couldn't, you know. So it's so relatable and so necessary. And I know you did an off-Broadway run some years ago now, and have been able to take it. You one fringe, you want you one, share the journey to Edinburgh and kind of what you're looking at moving. Lolo needs to be everywhere, she's like an icon, you know. She's yeah, she needs her own Barbie.

SPEAKER_03 21:36

I I think so. That would be so much fun.

SPEAKER_02 21:38

Because yeah, her fuzzy, like big fuzzy coat and you know, big glasses.

SPEAKER_03 21:44

She does have there's a probably a little over 90 minutes, maybe it's 90 or 100 minutes, the full show, and then we have an hour version of the show. But in the full show, she does 18 costume changes right on the stage.

SPEAKER_02 21:58

It's amazing.

SPEAKER_03 22:02

I keep talking to the audience, and we just there's by the end there's the stage is littered with clothes. So I started it like again, just writing stream of consciousness during the pandemic and writing these different dating stories. And then I took it with the help of Matt Hoverman, who helped me develop it, created this solo show, and I play in the full version 18 characters, there's 18 costume changes, there's projections of the amazing Leanne. Arnold's created really simple set. So and I put like I do music, play guitar, it's so much fun. So we slash we laid the groundwork for this, we built the piece, and then when I do it, it's kind of like I just get on the tracks and just go.

SPEAKER_02 22:46

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:47

It just kind of moves through me, and it it's so much fun. So we did it first at the New York City Fringed Festival in 2024, and when we won the Audience Choice Award, yay!

SPEAKER_01 22:58

Of course she did.

SPEAKER_03 22:59

I was so proud of that. You know, it's a solo show, and so much depends on word of mouth. And it was, you know, me and the director basically promoting it. And there were some shows that just had, you know, casts of 25, 30, these two shows, and we won the audience choice awards.

SPEAKER_02 23:17

So profound. It's just the power of touching people's hearts when you have a goal to impact people's lives.

Fringe Wins And Edinburgh Breakthrough

SPEAKER_03 23:23

You know, it's and one I really one of my goals for the show is that when people see it, that they we were just talking about this Buddhist concept of casting off the transient and revealing this. So I wanted people when they see the show, if they're in a relationship that doesn't bring out their greater self or bring out the best of them, to after they see the show, say, you know what, I'm gonna let that go. To start making choices to really reveal their higher selves, to really let that show that's transient. We well in New York City Friends, then we were invited to do an off-Broadway run. It was a short off-Broadway one run at Playhouse 46, which went really well. And then we brought the show to Edinburgh last year to the big to the you know, it's a pretty prestigious festival, and there is something like 4,000 shows. I don't know how it's physically possible, but they're going all day. Every single space in the city turns into a venue. It's really magical, creative. I thought it would be overwhelming when I heard about it, but this synchronicity kind of takes over, and you find yourself in the right place at the right time, meeting with people that are meant for you. But the show, Jennifer Amy is this lovely producer who helped me take the show to Edinburgh. And then she brought these two amazing young women who helped promote the show to other young women, especially to college students. And we were able to sell out the show, which is such a huge accomplishment. So we sold out shows. A lot of young people came and we won the Intercultural Connections Audience Choice Award. So I was over the moon about that. And we were also shortlisted for guest production out of those thousands of shows, and some of them have multi-million dollar budgets, some of them are headed, have Broadway producers who are test running these shows in Edinburgh. So the fact that we were shortlisted, there were only 13 shows on this ICI shortlist. We got two five-star reviews. So I just I'm absolutely over the moon about that. And then everyone wanted to talk after, especially the young women. Like everyone wants to talk about the shows, talk about how they resonate with Lola's experiences. Even we did the show at APAP. We did showcase at the beginning of the year. What's APAP? It's the Association of Performing Arts Professionals. So a lot of performers and shows doing that.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

They showcase there, right?

SPEAKER_03 26:01

Yes. But the best part was after the shows, there was this one showcase that we did after went in the grim room, and all these young women wanted to talk. And with such a diverse group of young women, you know, there was different sexual orientations, there was a non-binary young person who was participating in conversation, all different racial, ethnic backgrounds, sexual orientations, and ages. And I wouldn't move to tears that such a diverse group of people wanted to talk related to Lolo with the situations that she found herself in. The majority of the show, I think, is comedy, but then it touches on some really dark issues.

Where Lolo Goes Next

SPEAKER_02 26:42

It's so profound though. You know, at the end of the day, we're all human beings, we're all global citizens, we all want a happy and productive life, and this is you know, and Lolo brings them. I mean, I related to it, the attachment to the one that's just never gonna be there or is married, or you know, I should write my own Lolo version, but yeah, so where's Lolo going next? We want to see her everywhere.

SPEAKER_03 27:25

Well, I actually am working on some writing projects at the moment. So taking a little clause and performing. And in September, we're doing it at one of my favorite places in the world, Savage Wonder, in Beacon, New York. Yay, I'm coming. Yay! This place is phenomenal. Like, I encourage you, I encourage everyone to visit Beacon and check out all the local businesses, but especially to go to Savage Wonder. It was created by a military veteran who comes from a family of performance. Really, to the priority is to give veterans and their immediate family members a space to bring their work and develop it. So there's right now there's a small theater, there's a wine bar and an art gallery, and they're building an 125-seat theater and a six-year-old theater. So it's gonna be huge, but they really provide space for you know all kinds of artists, really prioritizing military veterans. But I'm it's just such a beautiful venue. So I'm excited to do that. And then right at the moment, then we're gonna have to wait a year for Lola to be almost a year for Lola to be in New York City. We're gonna be performing at the Wild project in March 2027. So I'm excited about that. We're also in the middle of looking at tour, so stay tuned.

Tenacity, Funding, And The Long Game

SPEAKER_02 28:45

Well, this is important, I think. And you know, we get, especially now in this social media culture, like, oh, it's supposed to have it, just seems like it happens. I mean, I know for Victory Dance Project, we're looking into 27, 28, like we have to be really constantly moving, and it's it's not a snap your fingers and suddenly you're a YouTube star kind of reality, even though we might think it is. So I love that you know, maybe you can share, especially for new entrepreneurs or people getting going, like the tenacity and persistence you have to add, like making causes every single day and then trusting. We were just talking about this before, like, and all we learn, and we were just saying, like, I paid this person and this didn't happen, but all of that contributes to you know, no causes ever wasted, right? So, what would you share with a young artist that wants to try and get their work out? The benefit of New York is if there's so much ability to do it, and it's also so incredibly difficult and expensive. So it's this bizarre paradigm.

SPEAKER_03 30:02

It's so challenging. I mean, it's a lesson I'm constantly learning that tenacity and persistence and patience, and being hyper-focused and determined, and open to other opportunities and options at the same time. After we we did really well in Edinburgh, and I was so happy about that, and I had this fantasy that then the savior would swoop in and say, Oh, darling, how magnificent. Go to Broadway. Yeah, here's$10 million, and we're just the doors are flowing open for you. Well, we did really well in Edinburgh. I was so excited, also for some other writing projects that I'm doing, and excited to just move forward with everything and start booking a tour. And and then immediately my boyfriend and I broke up. My precious cat passed away. And it was Jackie's cat, right? Yeah, Jackie's cat. I had adopted both of her cats, and one of them passed away really suddenly, which was just devastating for me. I mean, you know how it is having animals, they're just some health problems that started after an accident I was in several years ago that I struggle with almost on a daily basis, pretty much a daily basis, but they were really flaring up because of the stress, so I had to take a step back and take a pause and be in the space of not knowing what the next thing is. And now Jennifer Amy, the wonderful producer Jennifer Amy, and also Mary Molly Pearson are working with me towards bringing the Lola's Boyfriend Show to the Wild project. It's a year from now. We have to do fundraising. If there are any producers out there or you know, supporters of the arts who want to support Lolo, we would love to talk to you. We need you, and bringing the show to Savage and then also expanding into television writing. So I have to keep that a little quiet, but we're working on that. I'm very excited about that. So advice like the Santic helps me so much taking steps forward and then allowing myself to be in the void sometimes.

SPEAKER_02 32:19

It's uncomfortable.

SPEAKER_03 32:21

It's so uncomfortable, and the pacing isn't what I would like. It's just like I'm an impatient.

SPEAKER_02 32:26

You're like me. You want it like, come on, come on, come on, I'm doing all this. Where's the results? I'm that way.

SPEAKER_03 32:31

And and and it the whole thing of not having, you know, we've had a lot of conversations with with high-level producers and investors, and some of those might come through. They're just, it's slower than I thought it would. And then there is something empowering going back to being being a producer on my own work and having final say on it. It's like that lesson that I had when I was auditioning so much and wanting to be an actress and admiring those musicians so much because they could create their own work, book their own shows, you know, reject to their it's like it's very empowering. It's kind of like surfing a big wave. It's empowering, it's badass, and then it can just knock you over, take you out, like dump you under.

SPEAKER_02 33:18

Yeah, that's a great thing.

SPEAKER_01 33:19

Yeah, like beat you up and like leave you for dead unshore. Hurling you onto the shore, like, oh, what just happened.

SPEAKER_03 33:27

And then you're like, you like lay there for a while, for like a few weeks or months, and then you're like, let's do this again. Have a sandwich, have a drink, and then like yeah.

Chanting, Trusting Timing, And Support

SPEAKER_02 33:41

Well, that's uh actually an important point of, and I struggle with this of taking some time to reset, like breathing, going outside, changing your environment, you know, rather than push, push, push, you know, kind of letting things gel on their own. I'm not good at that either.

SPEAKER_03 33:58

And something I grapple with and struggle with, like we talk a lot in our practice about how we move our lives and the directions we want them to go, where in the driver's seat. And also, I feel there's also something else, you know, there's some other force, there's some other spirit, there's something, some plan, you know, that maybe our conscious mind isn't aware of. And one of my friends, John Plummer, who's an incredible writer and director, encouraged me to chant like I was looking out over the whole universe. Not always making something happen or imposing my will, but just with this open heart, open mind over open spirit. I was crying to him about something that I wanted, because I think we got we got a three and a half star review, which really got my goat. And he was like, dude, like, chant, like, and and the reason not just because I want it, because I want to use that to parlay, you know, into other bookings. And he was like, just chant like you're looking out over the universe. And I did, and as soon as I finished, I got a message from Jennifer saying we got a five-star review. So interesting.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Lammyo Ringy Kyo. You can't beat it. Where can we find you? Where can we find Lolo? How can we support you? Where can we follow you?

SPEAKER_03 35:22

Yay, thank you for asking. My website is Lolo'sboyfriend Show.com. My Instagram is Lolo's Boyfriend Show. My TikTok is Lolo's Boyfriend Show.

SPEAKER_02 35:32

Lolo shares a lot of wisdom on social media, so you should definitely shares the real shit.

SPEAKER_03 35:41

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SPEAKER_02 36:06

Lauren, thank you. You inspire me. You inspire me. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_01 36:14

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 36:15

Yeah, to all our friends out there watching and listening. Thank you. Please continue to listen, download, share, invite your friends, because we're all about creating victory and making this shit happen. So thank you, and we'll see you guys next week.

SPEAKER_01 36:36

Thank you, Lori. Thank you for having me, Amy.